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ok guys need some help put led bulbs in rear today number plate working reverse lights working brake light workingbut no light when just side lights on on the front the rear cluster is all off any help will be great
 
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Hi,
I have been fitting new DRL'S on my Nissan Juke(2012 plate)fitted positive ACC wire in passenger fuse box today (if anyone has a photo of the layout of fuses that would great I may have mixed them up),
Tonight Noticed I have No brake lights, looked in the passenger compartment fuse box /cover - not found , if my memory is correct is it part of a fuse cluster in the engine compartment ? there is no information in the owners manual .hope you can help.
Mac
 
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Lampsout2 wrote:Hi,I have been fitting new DRL'S on my Nissan Juke(2012 plate)fitted positive ACC wire in passenger fuse box today (if anyone has a photo of the layout of fuses that would great I may have mixed them up),Tonight Noticed I have No brake lights, looked in the passenger compartment fuse box /cover - not found , if my memory is correct is it part of a fuse cluster in the engine compartment ? there is no information in the owners manual .hope you can help.MacFrom the Owners Manual (yes very scant info on Fuses!)There is one easily accessible Fuse Box as shown in the above pic - under the bonnet [item 1 in the first diagram ... oh and another hidden on, No.2! ] but no idea with out pulling it as to what's in there ... sorry! There is also a Fuse Box (or two) under the Air Filter Snorkel on the right hand side of the Battery ... Snorkel easily pulls off. But TBH I think they are more Relays than Fuses in them?Without seeing what you've been up to or done .... have you checked all the Fuses in the Panel inside the Passenger side door? They may 'look' OK, but to be on the safe side it's best to pull them and either test or swap as whilst they can look good, they still may have blown!Would be easier if we could see what's what ... but like your Brake Lights ... being in the dark is a RPITA Best of luck sorting things ...M-J
 
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M-J,Thanks for the info found the second fuse box under filter snorkel pipe, lifting the fuse box lid off the wires are very tight and difficult to view all the fuses - contains RR DEF, EGI, FR WIPER,PDS LAMPS, WIPER A//C CLUTCH FO,H/lamp (low/high), REV LAMP,FUEL PUMP,IGN COIL ,injector ,ETC,ABS ECU. have some photo's not but clever enough to put them on this page.
Have NOT found the fault for the brake lights look's like I will have to admit defeat and book the car into the garage.Lampsout22015-10-16 20:36:46
 
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Oh, don't admit defeat that's something only use women are supposed to do! Well, if you fancy some Light Reading ... here's a link to a PDF of the WSM section that may help? No idea how you are with this side of things - but worth a look .... http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Juke/2012/PCS.pdf. & http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Juke/2012/PG.pdfIf you weren't so far away of if I was up your way on exercise, I'd offer to take a look for you, doubt it's anything too complicated. If not a fuse, you may have popped a relay?Anyway good luck with getting it sorted - best sooner rather than later ... being the Tail Lights!M-J
 
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Hi Lampout2 (very apt ... sorry), I know looking at WSM can be sooooo boring at times especially when none of it make any sense to you at all [where's the pretty pictures .... give me pretty pictures ... eh?] and Electrical Faults are the worst!Not being there or knowing the Chain of Work leading up to the loss of your Tail Lights I too am a bit in the dark - total guess work, but TBH unless you went at your car with a selection of hammers it has to be something quite simple.So working backwards ... workout what wire's or circuits you tapped into and then try to work out which Fuse/Relay/Breaker protects that particular side of the wiring?Then there is the item you attached - the DRL's - do you know that they are functioning correctly (?) and did they come with a Control Unit (?) and is this too functioning as it should and has that been wired in the right way? [from personal experience of one cheap DRL unit ... it had TWO feeder wire's to control the DRL's when you switched either the Headlights ON or the Sidelights ON. You only attached ONE of the wires NOT both??? Hook up both and hey presto it did not work!!!].Anyway would be so much easier with the car in front of me! As I said before you have checked the Fuse's ... not just by EYE as whilst they can look OK, they can still be broken? You need to use a Multi Meter on them ... as too on the Relay's & Breakers to ensure they have not been blown?One thing ... did you disconnect the battery whilst you where doing your 'Fitting' or was it still hooked up? I only ask as whilst the components you where working with may well have been isolated - flailing wires can so easily bridge other electrical terminals/connectors and within a second cause all kinds of hidden problems?Well will stop bending your ear - Tea Break is over for now so have to get on! Sorry I can't be of any more help, good luck with the Garage - just hope they can find the problem quickly for you? If you explain 'what you've done' simply and clearly they should be able to track & trace the components involved quickly and so not charge you too much? [IF they are Honest and any good???]Take care, M-J
 
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Hi, M-J,
The problem is I only noticed the brake lights did not work after I fitted the new DRL's .( before I started the job disconnected battery ) wiring DRL's - Connected Neg to battery terminal ,Live to ACC withfuse in line, connected yellow wire to side lamp DRL's are OK, did NOT connect 4th Wire to fog lamp as I thought it was optional Maybe that could be the problem ? will study the wiring diagram tomorrow
 
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Lampout2 Hi, Sorry - not been avoiding you honest and will have to keep this quick as a little busy today!OK ... first thing, we don't really know IF your Tail Lights where OUT before you set too fitting the DRLs? So the issue may not be related! Next the Spare Wire ..... No. Don't connect it. The DRL Control Unit should only need ONE Signal Wire to tell it when to either dim down or switch off (which ever your's do)?See attached photo's of the Two most popular Juke type ones supplied with the Eyebrow type DRL's ....1st the F Type with a Single Wire ...and 2nd the LK Type with Two Wire ... but you only use ONE option as shown in the second (clearer) photo of the basic Wiring Instructions ..... NOTE ... It says ONLY ONE OPTION can be used - the Yellow wire OR the Brown wire NOT both!Anyway ... best of luck and how about posting a photo or two of the DRL's so we (I) can see what your working with?M-J
 
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Hi
The DRL control box is LK in your the photo, the switching wire when connected to the headlight circuit will not operate ? . When ignition is On and DRL yellow wire is connected to side light circuit the DRL's are ON, When side lights are ON the DRL goes off which I can live with .
Car booked into Nissan Dealership on Friday ,
I do very little night driving so I do know if the rear lights were working prior to fitting DRL's.
Keep you posted.
Thanks for your Help.
 
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Lampsout2 wrote:Hi The DRL control box is LK in your the photo, the switching wire when connected to the headlight circuit will not operate ? . When ignition is On and DRL yellow wire is connected to side light circuit the DRL's are ON, When side lights are ON the DRL goes off which I can live with .Car booked into Nissan Dealership on Friday ,I do very little night driving so I do know if the rear lights were working prior to fitting DRL's.Keep you posted.Thanks for your Help. OK, let me try to decipher this. Your using the YELLOW wire circuit which will give you an either ON or Off option ... YES [The Brown will give you DRL's ON or 50% Dimmed]Next if you hook it up to the Headlight Circuit ... they (the DRL's) will not work at all (or as I see it, Light Up)? Correct?If so that would indicate a power feed is being sent to the DRL Control Box - so did you hook it up to the right wire on the Headlight Circuit? But now you have the Yellow wire hooked up to the Sidelights (which is an alternative option) and as is correct, you turn the car ON, the DRL's light up but if you turn the Sidelights ON, the DRL's go OUT as they should do (to strictly comply with the relevant Laws etc...!) ... YES? So they are working correctly. Moving on ..... I'm guessing you've still not found the fault of the Rear Bulb failure? Well good luck for Friday - hope they can find the fault and it's not down to your handy work? And just to confuse you further ... if you want the DRL's to stay on, instead of Switching Off, just swap the Yellow Wire for the Brown one and they will just Dim Down by 50% with the Sidelights on and not switch off? Enjoy, M-J